The European Fiscal-Military System project, funded by the ERC, transforms the conventional narrative of the violent rise of the European states system by revealing how belligerent competition also involved cooperation. States’ emergence was co-dependent and entailed developing ways to obtain war-making resources from beyond their jurisdictions. In the second of two sets of conversations, John Condren and Michael Martoccio explore how the city republics of Geneva and Genoa functioned as key hubs for the transfer of resources between theatres of war (such as northern Italy and the Netherlands). Such resources ranged from money to munitions, and this conversation also discussed the often shady individuals involved.
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